This thread discusses the Content article: The Value Of Local Elders To The Development Of Nabua

An concern ko kadi proposal na adi manongod kana lebel sa control sa mga tawong tatawan mo sa poder or autoridad. Pauro utro nang pigwa warningan kana mga liberal ideologist poon pa kira Adam Smith na ana gobyerno na sige paduag kana awtoridad niya, o sige paiwas kadi napopoderan amo ana magka kawsa sa pagkauda sa control kana gobyerno. pag mala nang iwas kana poder kana gobyerno, nariribaraw na iya. pag naribaraw iya, ana desisyon niya paiyan sana sadto mig preserbar kana buway niya -- mga alangkaw na taxes, kapitalismo, etc. -- instead of serving the needs of her constituents. kaya ngani agko mga kandidato sa mga progresibong democratic na nasyon na nagsasabing, pasaditon ta ana gobyerno ta. both conservative and liberal ideologists agree that the gov't is a necessary evil in this democratic age. Why? Kawasa, ana premise kana gov't is control which stifles freedom but we can't do away with control because people can become unruly; hence, "necessary evil."

buko uman ako totally against sa "council of elders" na concept, but a lot of work has to be done on the theories surrounding its quality. once such concept is its entity: is it a people's entity or a government entity? if it's a people's entity (meaning, it is constituent's initiative and governed by constituents) then conceptually it is a good move. but if it is a government entity, we experience a lot of theoretical problems. a council of elders promotes a certain kind of oligarchy among the people where the voice of the dumbest among us can never be heard: only the wise and the knowledgeable and the elderly. that is not the democratic spirit. we don't need another representative body to represent us to the governemnt. the representative system is already in place kaya nag eeleher kita sa mga kagawad. they are representatives of the people. this already is a republic system in place. many government officials however don't even know the ideology that brought about admission to government officiating. for the most part, the trouble is not on representation but on the representer-representee relationships. within the concept of representation is a thriving dynamics of give-and-take, trust, and many more.

ana modification ko is this. a liberal approach to "council of elders" would be a regulated town meeting where those who attend are representatives of every sector of nabua's society -- from parainom to padi. this town meeting must be attended by all the kagawad becasue this is one of the major contact points of the kagawads to the people they serve. to determine the need of the constituents can never be over-emphasized. ana duda ko kaya, adi mga gov't officials ta, mga patal kaya hanggang capitalism sana. capitalism is like a plant that has to grow in a soil of virtue and liberty. the reason why gov't officials are in their position, along with many other things, is their willingness to be governed by government policies -- part of what this means is that they will receive money from the people but they will spend it with the prescribed guidelines of the government. a town meeting is not encumbered by government control, that is why elders are needed to facilitate parliamentary procedure.

this "council of elders" concept is quite good, but has to be embodied with the philosophy that they are working within the domain of the people and not the governmental domain, that they will be self-interested and rational. (by self-interest we do not mean objectivist [Ayn Rand] self-interest but self-interest in the locus of liberal political ideology.) let the elders facilitate the town meetings. let the kagawads discover what the people want. from there create strategic plans. let the people in parliamentary discipline raise their concerns. if this will happen we may embody the spirit of Lincoln's Gettysburg Address,

"It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

Post edited by: Sheriff_Idong, at: 2009/05/02 14:02

Akong para uma, natood na magka agko idyolohiya sa dakol na bagay. Isi ninyo mag-iilamon ako, mag aani, mangangalkag, pero irak sa diyos makaka abra siyete sa mga tawong ana ideya sa lamud, kapagtiusan. Mga tawong naglalaom poydi kang magligid ligid sa ot (gatol nang!). Kada iba ibang aspeto sa sosyudad agko kita istayl nganing maka survive.

We utilize mental apparatuses to help us navigate through the different issues of life. Medyo maluya-luya pa ko sa pag utilize kadi mga aparato na adi, pero nagma mature man gara gatikot. For example, pag nag iilusyon kadto i employ a certain kind of language apparatus to impress girls. Also, I would have to think of myself as admirable and likable to give me confidence. My ideology is, "If you feel it, you do it."

Sa diskusyon sa politika, agko man kita dapat idyolohiya nganing di sana kita "nagbibisara" but we also "participate" in the ideals of that ideology. Sad but true, pero dakol na pilipino arog kan.

Bayda na sana ninyo di artikulo na adi sadi baba na galin sa http://www.economist.com/countries/Philippines/profile.cfm?folder=Profile-Political%20Forces.


Political forces
Sep 23rd 2008
From the Economist Intelligence Unit
Source: Country ViewsWire

Parties are based around personalities

Political parties in the Philippines are based on personalities rather than ideologies. All those directly elected to Congress support the existing political and social structures, espouse a market economy (until it threatens sectoral interests), and are nationalistic, to varying degrees. There are thus continual shifts in allegiance. The president tends to attract a greater following in Congress than the election results would indicate, at least in the early years of a presidential term. In the final years of a presidential term of office the parties tend to splinter, as presidential hopefuls emerge and the president has only limited patronage to offer.

Lakas and Kampi

Following the May 2007 congressional election the pro-government Lakas, which was formed in 1992 to support the presidential candidacy of Mr Ramos, remained the largest party in Congress. The party's strength in Congress was eroded after the May 1998 election, which brought Mr Estrada to power, but surged once more in the 2001 mid-term election, following the assumption of the presidency by the vice-president, Ms Macapagal Arroyo, also of Lakas. Lakas won 91 of the 218 directly elected seats in the House of Representatives in the 2007 election. Kampi, the party which was created to support Ms Macapagal Arroyo in the 1998 elections, has grown significantly in importance, increasing its seats in the lower house as members desert other parties, from only three in May 2004 to 56 in early 2008.

The Catholic church

Another important political force is the Roman Catholic church. It played an active part in the civilian opposition to the Marcos regime and helped the military rebellion that brought Ms Aquino to power by bringing the population out on to the streets of the capital, Manila, in its support. The church also took the lead in demands for Mr Estrada's resignation in the wake of the corruption allegations in late 2000. The church hierarchy initially gave its blessing to Ms Macapagal Arroyo's disputed victory in the May 2004 presidential election, but subsequently called for an investigation into allegations of electoral fraud. In December 2006 it joined attempt by the opposition to the government to change the constitution from a presidential to a parliamentary system before the 2007 elections. Its stance prompted an immediate surrender by the administration. The church hierarchy has also taken an increasingly strong line against human rights abuses and is critical of some aspects of economic policy, notably the encouragement of mining developments.

Post edited by: Sheriff_Idong, at: 2009/05/02 14:23